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Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:29 am
by Squeak
Just a random thought that I had last night while grinding in front of the solstice tree in Shagard's town commons.

What if, with the gift boxes for sale in the solstice tent, characters can buy a box, fill it with a little trinket, and PLACE BOX TO <character> while in the commons (or Halloween Town's equivalent) to place the box under the tree. Where they stay, the pile getting ever larger, until the Winter Solstice (12/21). When that lovely day comes, people can CLAIM whatever was left for them under the tree. Maybe, just maybe, we can all have a fun, lovely little event to go with it.

Edited to add: If there are any left over presents not claimed, helpful post workers will collect them and MAIL them their intended person free of charge since it's the season for giving.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:30 am
by Xanthe
I love this idea myself!

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:49 am
by Zeldryn
Such a solid idea. Totally about it.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:29 am
by Adresin
Omg I love this idea!

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:04 am
by Rias
Per the changelog: "It is now possible to LABEL a gift box with a recipient and PUT it under the Winter Solstice Tree! (Only a gift's recipient or sender may retrieve the gift box from under the tree.)"

Thanks for the great idea! The label specified must be another PC's coded name, and the sender's name will also automatically be added to the label as well. A gift box must be labeled, actually have something in it, and be closed before it can be put under the tree. Both the recipient and the sender can GET the box from under the tree at any time. Happy Winter Solstice gifting!

Hmmm, I'll run over and add a few customization options to the gift boxes so we can have a little more variety. And I'll see what we can figure out for any spooky Corvites who want to get in on the gift-giving in their own little part of the world.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:15 am
by Squeak
Hahahahaha.

Thank you. RIAS! It's always appreciated when you take an inane, sleep-deprived suggestion and make it realized.

Now to continue planning the Solstice Party I thought of while making the suggestion. Open to one and all (except those that follow Lich Daddy)!

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:22 am
by Lysse
Rias wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:04 am Hmmm, I'll run over and add a few customization options to the gift boxes so we can have a little more variety. And I'll see what we can figure out for any spooky Corvites who want to get in on the gift-giving in their own little part of the world.
I don't know what the current leader of Corvus is like in terms of personality, but I think it'd be pretty great if there was some kind of like, scraggly, Charlie Brown looking tree put up in their town square, like a Blackthorn plant without it's flowers, called the Nondenominational Gifting Tree to "appease those few who wish to engage in this silly custom".

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:26 am
by jerc
Rias wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:04 am the sender's name will also automatically be added to the label as well.
Any chance we can make this not automatic/a requirement? Secret Santa could be fun and it's definitely not because I want to anonymously send soap to every character I've passed who's been smelly at some point.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:29 am
by Rias
jerc wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:26 am Any chance we can make this not automatic/a requirement? Secret Santa could be fun and it's definitely not because I want to anonymously send soap to every character I've passed who's been smelly at some point.
I considered an option for anonymous sender, but I worried about the increased potential for mean-spirited gifts! Pbbtbtbtbt.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:39 am
by Vazbol
I don't know. I don't see it as a proper Corvus winter solstice tree unless the tree literally walks in and takes root for the month.

Though joking aside, it'd be nice to have some small things for the winter holidays. Being a band of outcasts, criminals and afflicted, some probably still hold some regard for any old traditions they used to have. And can take anything, no matter how minor it might be.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:09 pm
by Rias
After some pokes about it, it's now possible to specify some prominent named NPCs for the gift box labels. Mostly the ones that you can regularly see in the game and ASK about stuff with dialogue, as well as a few others that seemed well-known enough to include. If your favorite NPC isn't available for this but reasonably should be (that is, they actually live in the town and would be able to notice and retrieve the gift, so NOT NPCs that are more behind-the-scenes or live out somewhere unknown or beyond civilization), feel free to request them here in this thread! On the other hand, please don't overdo it and try to send something to every NPC, we don't want a bunch of fluff that's not going to be received by actual player characters. Only do this if you have one, or mayyyybe two, very specific NPCs your character feels a particular desire to give a gift to.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:39 pm
by Rias
This has been a lot of fun, hooray for the holiday spirit! Though the holidays tend to the busiest time of year IRL for myself and most (all?) of my fellow GMs, some of us are going to TRY to bring around some item customization providers before the Winter Solstice date to add some personalization to gifts for you all. Please understand that they will be providing minor customizations, not complete transformations or upgrades (whether mechanical or implied by a description change). As an example, a tailor might show up to do some custom embroidery on cloth or soft leather items to add a little decorative design to the short and/or long description. The tailor would NOT however be adjusting the look or feel of the items beyond that.

In anticipation of the typical kinds of requests that come up when we offer these sorts of services, I want to remind everyone again that we have really cracked down on the feel of the setting and I've already laid down some very strict laws with the rest of the GM team about not providing any further fancy-luxury-feeling stuff. We won't be studding items with gems or engraving them with elegant gold filigree or making a plain dress into an elegant frilly ball gown with intricate lace and seven different layers of ... fancy ... dress ... ness. Again: Personalization of what the item already is, not upgrading or transforming it.

Things can look fun and interesting without looking luxurious or posh! Just point your creative imagination in a direction that's more about the unique personality of an item appropriate to the Lost Lands setting where resources are scarce and advanced crafting techniques/tools are unavailable, and humanity is just trying to hack together a semblance of civilization as best they can from the post-apocalyptic ruins they find themselves in.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:31 pm
by artus
I know some people have this thing where they'll find gems from somewhere, like boxes or whatever, and want to add said gems to the clothes or whatever else they find. If, by the law, no fancies, I wonder if this can still be done.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 4:35 pm
by Squeak
Rias wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:39 pm We won't be studding items with gems or engraving them with elegant gold filigree or making a plain dress into an elegant frilly ball gown with intricate lace and seven different layers of ... fancy ... dress ... ness. Again: Personalization of what the item already is, not upgrading or transforming it.
By what Rias specifically put in there, I'm going to hazard a guess that putting gems onto clothes would be a no. And after seeing what was available previously, by looking at legacy character's items, I must say that I'm a huge fan of this. You can still have nice, custom items, it's just not going to be anything fantastic. A leather-trimmed wool shirt embroidered around the hem with vines, for instance. A rugged fur-collared rust leather coat. Simple, beautiful in their simplicity.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 4:23 pm
by ydia
can any interaction commands with the tree be added to the exam command. like put item under tree etc.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:48 pm
by ydia
I imagine on the solstice gathering it will be nuts as people try to get their gifts and not what they gave to others. What if everyone's gifts were moved into one bag or something like the day of or something, so it is easier? Maybe I'm missing an easier command to just get gifts addressed to you rather than anything with your name on it, but just a thought.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 6:50 pm
by Squeak
Something like this would lower the bloat under the tree a good bit.

But, it's pretty easy getting boxes out of there with this syntax: "get TO:<character name> box"

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2024 4:54 am
by jerc
Protip for those with clients throwing errors when looking under the tree:

The ContainerLists option (number 18) puts each item on its own line so your client will be able to process them one at a time rather than attempt to parse the MEGA LINE.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:10 am
by esthy
There should probably be a limit on the amount of gifts people can place under the tree at a given time. recipients could just remove their gifts from there in order for others to be able to add more. If not, there's always in-game mail -- I've mailed a few gifts this time, myself.

Might also be better to allow only one box addressed from one person to another under the tree.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:05 am
by Rias
esthy wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:10 am There should probably be a limit on the amount of gifts people can place under the tree at a given time.
Yeah, and probably a recent activity check and faction check for recipients. There are a fair number of gifts under the tree addressed to characters that aren't allowed in town, or characters that were long dormant/abandoned/retired/dead even in CLOK1, let alone CLOK2. But this was meant to be a quick and easy add from the development side! A good example that implementing even the simplest of ideas can end up with complexities. Maybe next year the implementation will be more robust so the tree doesn't feel so overwhelmingly cluttered.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:08 am
by Squeak
Give an inch and they'll take a mile.

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:49 pm
by Adresin
So, uh, what happened to the gifts that weren't claimed? Some were to active or at least semi active characters who just weren't able to log in during that time. I hope those gifts still exist, somewhere?
Thanks for the tree though, that was such a fantastic thing. :)

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:03 pm
by Rias
I'll put them in the senders' lockers so they can do what they want with them. The tree gifts were great fun, I'm glad it was suggested! It made the holiday extra special and I'm looking forward to it again next Solstice. Thanks to you all for being awesome!

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:04 pm
by Adresin
Oo, great solution. Thank you!

Re: Winter Solstice Gift Giving Shenanigans

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:47 pm
by Rias
Gift boxes that were never retrieved from beneath the tree have been sent to the storage lockers of their senders. Sorry it took so long!