Dragging

Xzean · Post by **Xzean** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:55 pm

Is there any way we could have it so not just dead people but unconscious people can be dragged? It doesn't make too terribly much sense that we can't. Make it some sort of test/check to do it, but I currently can't sleep someone/thing and drag them to my lair for ebil experiments. It is depressing.

Post by **Rias** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:36 pm

This is on the to-do list. It has some nasty complications code-wise, but it'll be possible soonish.

Xzean · Post by **Xzean** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:56 pm

While I'm at it, kneel command plz k thx.

Evelyn · Post by **Evelyn** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:17 pm

Will there be a way to escape from being dragged around? I'm not sure it'd be fun for everyone to be dragged around and be made to sit through roleplay where they can't respond.

Xzean · Post by **Xzean** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:34 pm

So you don't think you should be able to my dragged around when not conscious? Cuse...that doesn't make much sense at all.

KianTheArcher · Post by **KianTheArcher** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:40 pm

Or, she's saying that it's unfair to force someone to sit through roleplay that 1.) They may be uncomfortable with or 2.) that they can't respond to.

Maybe I'm weird, but I don't find the prospect of sitting while people drag me off and poke me with sticks to be terribly entertaining.

Xzean · Post by **Xzean** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:59 pm

It may not be, but it is roleplay. Just like you shouldn't log off during active pvp. I don't see this as any different.

Evelyn · Post by **Evelyn** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:00 pm

One sided RP, RP shouldn't be forced on someone, ever.

KianTheArcher · Post by **KianTheArcher** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:04 pm

There comes a point where justifying things for the sake of "roleplay" doesn't overcome the fact that it's a game at the end of the day. Coding in things that make a person miserable (IE forcing them into roleplay they may or may not be comfortable with) shouldn't be done.

Xzean · Post by **Xzean** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:50 pm

Well there could always be a flag like GS/DR has.

Landion · Post by **Landion** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:47 pm

I understand both sides of the debate, and abuse of this mechanic is something which we would certainly keep an eye on, and possibly a flag as well.

However, we have wanted to have people be able to be dragged while unconscious for a while now. Not only will this allow you to save your friends in a bad situation, but it will also provide for some RP opportunities.

Evelyn · Post by **Evelyn** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:55 am

What do you mean by a flag?

Lae · Post by **Lae** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:37 am

In GS if you want someone to NOT drag you, you can type group closed and nobody can move you.

Xzean · Post by **Xzean** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:32 am

DR actually had a setting/flag where you could be undragable or not.

KianTheArcher · Post by **KianTheArcher** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:42 am

The way dragging worked on the last MUD Evelyn and I played was that one had to be unconscious (which meant at below zero HP), and then could be tied up. This would effectively keep the person below 0 HP so they could not do anything but emote and do says.

However, there was a way out called Desperate. It was essentially a way for your character to make a desperate escape. Once used, it incurs a penalty of experience and fame (which we don't have either of), but it allowed a person to escape (at a penalty) if there was something going on that the person did not feel comfortable with, or in case someone got ambushed on the way to logging out (as one could only log out in specific places on that game).

That's why, more or less, we bring up the point of being dragged around unable to respond, and unable to escape (even at a penalty), might not be 1.)enjoyable and 2.)great for the game itself.

Xzean · Post by **Xzean** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:56 pm

I actually very much like the system you described.

KianTheArcher · Post by **KianTheArcher** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:46 pm

It was one of the better things on the game, however I'm not sure it would translate well. Partially because we aren't experienced based and nor is there fame, and partially because on that game the death mechanics were completely different.