General unavailability of lessons in CLOK

[Kent]

In CLOK, it is actually quite unrealistically difficult to find characters (NPC's) who will sell you lessons. It is an unnecessary frustration for us players.

Throughout Haiban, for example, you have a meeting place of master tradesmen, yet if you are not an Artisan, you can get no lessons there in trades like Forging or Mining, to the best of my knowledge. The Artisan teachers don't even extend the courtesy of lessons to their allied Mercenaries. It should be the opposite, where Haiban is the centre to travel to to receive the best of lessons. Sure, most Artisan NPC's are too busy to teach, but at least 1% or 2% in the community are interested in giving instruction and collecting the tuitions from that.


In Shadgard and Mistral Lake, you have in the Bow shops master archers who will teach you archery, marksmanship, woodworking, fletching, etc but bizarrely, neither will teach you the fundamental hunting skill of Stealth. I think this is incongruous in an RP sense.


What is possibly the most rudimentary of all skills, knapping, is unavailable to the point where you have to travel across the continent to one single NPC to learn it. I think the above-mentioned shop keepers would be among the first to teach knapping.

To the best of my knowledge, only one NPC teaches Forging: Arrowheads, and you have to pay an extra 50 riln for a workyard permit to get in to that NPC for the lesson.

To the best of my knowledge, no lessons other than from the Infirmary Healer are available at all in Hamlets. I think some common skills like Cooking, Logging, Fishing, Woodworking, knapping, melee, etc. should be taught in Hamlets.

Lessons from guild-specific: "Sorry, I only teach members of X guild". I can understand this from secretive guilds like Utassa. But for non-secretive guilds like Artisans, Udemi, Dwaedyn Wyr, etc, they should be willing to make money teaching anyone who is not low-rep, perhaps with a 50 riln surcharge.

[jilliana]

I believe Rias stated in the passed that he doesn't want one NPC teaching everything under the sun. That may have been mostly the case for guild NPCs, but I would hope the same was the case for most of them.

I do agree that some NPCs could be readjusted but honestly, in the end this isn't such a big deal.

[Kent]

I believe Rias stated in the passed that he doesn't want one NPC teaching everything under the sun. That may have been mostly the case for guild NPCs, but I would hope the same was the case for most of them.

I do agree that some NPCs could be readjusted but honestly, in the end this isn't such a big deal.

It is a big deal. It is characters role-playing poorly, in this case, Non-player characters.

[Jaster]

Well, that's why role-playing with mobiles is so much fun, isn't it?

[jilliana]

Well you gotta pick your battles Kent. The GMs can't do it all all the time.

At the end of the day when you go to sleep, NPCs on a game not knowing everything you want them to know isn't a huge deal.

[merin]

Have to pay fifty riln for a forging lesson in Mistral? Sorry, don't feel bad for you in the slightest. Get a forging lesson when you...well...wanna forge.

[merin]

Also, sorry for double post.

From an artisan perspective i wouldn't teach you forging. Actually, I've honestly considered not teaching anyone forging. That is my business and if everyone and their family's family's family can do it then there goes my business.