Page 1 of 1

My concerns about heave.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:47 am
by preiman
I want to start by saying I like the new heave command, but i do have some concerns about it.
my biggest one is that it may make body retrieval difficult enough that few people will be willing to do it at all.
As it stands you now need at least two people and a cart of some type, though it really has to be a handcart, because you can't get wagons into most if not all places for raising. you also need two people as you can't take the body out of the cart on your own. Beyond that, there is now an expense factor to body retrieval assuming you don't just happen to have the cart on hand. I'm also somewhat concerned with how we might get bodies during events, from really dangerous places, and from areas you can't bring a cart.
That all being said, I do like the Heave command, it will let us get furniture bodies and other heavy objects without being restricted to only the one, I just wantted to raise some concerns I have.

Re: My concerns about heave.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:03 am
by Stranger
I too like the new command but wish it did not disable the utility of the ol one man corpse drag.
You also notice the corpse of a striped badger.

drag badger
That's too heavy to drag. Maybe you could get some people to help you heave it into a cart or wagon.

Re: My concerns about heave.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:07 am
by Lae
^ This. Sometimes you don't have another person or a cart/wagon with you. Sometimes they're just not around, and rescuing people from very dangerous places is already kind of a crapshoot.

Re: My concerns about heave.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:07 am
by Rias
Corpses should still be draggable - that you can't is probably a math calculation error (although I was dragging corpses around last night for testing, so I'm not sure how this happened). Looking into that now. Heaving a corpse into a cart/wagon should just be the easier option with the possibility of multiples, while dragging by hand is supposed to be the less-convenient but always-available option.

Re: My concerns about heave.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:10 am
by preiman
OK thank you, glad we are not losing the drag option .

Re: My concerns about heave.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:01 am
by Rias
Should be fixed.

Re: My concerns about heave.

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:33 pm
by Rias
P.S. Adjusting critter weights (like that super-heavy badger corpse) are on the infamous to-do list. Most of them are just the global default weight.